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PaymoneyWubby calls Twitch’s 50/50 sub split “highway robbery” — here’s the actual math

Twitch's own help page says 60/40 and 70/30 rates exist, but only after 3 straight months of hitting paid-sub targets.

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The tea in 3

  1. PaymoneyWubby told Dexerto Twitch's sub split is "highway robbery" and said, "don't stream on Twitch."
  2. Twitch's standard rate is 50%. Its Plus Program offers 60/40 at 100 points, 70/30 at 300, for 3 months straight.
  3. Kick's help center says streamers keep 95%, with 5% taken as a processing fee.

PaymoneyWubby has a message for anyone thinking about streaming on Twitch: don’t. In an interview with Dexerto published Oct 14, the streamer called Twitch’s subscription revenue split “highway robbery” and said “don’t stream on Twitch; you’re getting robbed.”

He’s not just yelling from the outside. Wubby streams on both Twitch and Kick, according to Dexerto. So we pulled up both platforms’ own rules to check his math.

What he said

On what he’d change about Twitch, he went straight to the money.

I think it is highway robbery; it is not industry standard at this point, especially with the rise of Kick.— PaymoneyWubby, to Dexerto, Oct 14

He also said: “Twitch is so far behind with their sub split. New streamers is 50/50 – that’s insulting.” He added that “as you grow on Twitch, they’re generous enough to give you 70/30,” and that Kick is “at the very least” doing 95/5.

The actual math

TwitchStandard rate is 50%. The Plus Program unlocks 60/40 or 70/30 net revenue share for Affiliates and Partners who hit sub targets three months in a row.

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KickA 95/5 split across its main revenue streams. A $5 sub pays the streamer $4.75. Affiliate or Partner status required.

Twitch’s side: Twitch’s help page for the Plus Program lists two upgraded rates: Level 1 at 60/40 and Level 2 at 70/30. To get them, you need 100 or 300 “Plus Points” every month for three consecutive months, and only recurring paid subs earn points. A Tier 1 sub is worth 1 point, Tier 2 is 2, and Tier 3 is 6. The better rate then lasts 12 months, longer if you keep qualifying.

The catch: Prime subs don’t count toward Plus Points, and gift subs don’t count toward qualifying either, though they do earn the higher rate once you’re in. When Twitch announced the 60/40 tier in January 2024, CEO Dan Clancy’s blog post called 50% “the standard rate.”

50%Twitch standard
60–70%Twitch Plus Program
95%Kick, per its help center

Kick’s side: Kick’s help center says it “uses a 95/5 split across our main revenue streams,” with the 5% described as a processing fee. You have to be a Kick Affiliate or Partner to earn from subs.

So is he right?

On the headline numbers, yes: a brand-new Twitch Affiliate starts at 50%, and Kick advertises 95%. Wubby’s “70/30 as you grow” skips the 60/40 middle tier, and Dexerto notes some streamers have their own contracts that pay a bit more.

Why now

Kick is having a moment. The same week, Adin Ross’s Brand Risk 16 pulled a reported peak of a little over 1.4 million concurrent viewers on Kick, and the platform launched a new Kick Events hub days earlier, according to win.gg.

What happens next

Dexerto’s report doesn’t include any response from Twitch. The Plus Program page says Twitch has “consistently made updates” since the program started and will keep evaluating it. For now, the 50% starting rate is the one new streamers will see.

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